Comments on: why I don’t run shells inside Emacs http://snarfed.org Ryan Barrett's blog Sun, 13 May 2012 03:32:38 +0000 hourly 1 By: Navru http://snarfed.org/why_i_dont_run_shells_inside_emacs#comment-41390 Navru Fri, 03 Jun 2011 07:30:45 +0000 http://snarfed.org/wordpress/why_i_dont_run_shells_inside_emacs#comment-41390 <p>MultiTerm (http://www.emacswiki.org/emacs/MultiTerm) works much better than shell or term, though I do use eshell on occasion. In MultiTerm, term-unbind-key-list and term-bind-key-alist (detailed in the emacswiki link above) can be used to get the functionality you want.</p> MultiTerm (http://www.emacswiki.org/emacs/MultiTerm) works much better than shell or term, though I do use eshell on occasion. In MultiTerm, term-unbind-key-list and term-bind-key-alist (detailed in the emacswiki link above) can be used to get the functionality you want.

]]> By: Mauvis http://snarfed.org/why_i_dont_run_shells_inside_emacs#comment-29781 Mauvis Sat, 25 Dec 2010 06:11:26 +0000 http://snarfed.org/wordpress/why_i_dont_run_shells_inside_emacs#comment-29781 <p>I've recently discovered the joy of tmux. It's like screen but more intuitive. It also lets me split the screen in half just like emacs when I need to do some shell commands that require more than just a dumb terminal. After I'm done, I exit out of the new window and back to full screen emac'ing.</p> I’ve recently discovered the joy of tmux. It’s like screen but more intuitive. It also lets me split the screen in half just like emacs when I need to do some shell commands that require more than just a dumb terminal. After I’m done, I exit out of the new window and back to full screen emac’ing.

]]> By: Mike Makuch http://snarfed.org/why_i_dont_run_shells_inside_emacs#comment-28249 Mike Makuch Wed, 01 Dec 2010 15:06:15 +0000 http://snarfed.org/wordpress/why_i_dont_run_shells_inside_emacs#comment-28249 <p>"I hate the mouse." - Finally someone else get's it! The mouse is great for people new to a gui. It's intuitive and easy to use. But it's for beginners. It's a detriment to productivity. I've spent the past 20+ years tweaking my environments to avoid it.</p> “I hate the mouse.” – Finally someone else get’s it! The mouse is great for people new to a gui. It’s intuitive and easy to use. But it’s for beginners. It’s a detriment to productivity. I’ve spent the past 20+ years tweaking my environments to avoid it.

]]> By: Ivan Andrus http://snarfed.org/why_i_dont_run_shells_inside_emacs#comment-24825 Ivan Andrus Wed, 06 Oct 2010 18:54:40 +0000 http://snarfed.org/wordpress/why_i_dont_run_shells_inside_emacs#comment-24825 <p>I suggest you look at rxvt-unicode (aka urxvt) and http://github.com/bartman/urxvt-scripts . Together they allow keyboard selection and copying, including rectangular selection. rxvt-unicode is simply the best terminal emulator I have come across hands down—largely because it's extensible in perl.</p> I suggest you look at rxvt-unicode (aka urxvt) and http://github.com/bartman/urxvt-scripts . Together they allow keyboard selection and copying, including rectangular selection. rxvt-unicode is simply the best terminal emulator I have come across hands down—largely because it’s extensible in perl.

]]> By: Kris Rose http://snarfed.org/why_i_dont_run_shells_inside_emacs#comment-23390 Kris Rose Sun, 26 Sep 2010 18:25:08 +0000 http://snarfed.org/wordpress/why_i_dont_run_shells_inside_emacs#comment-23390 <p>You do know that you can make Emacs transparent? Like so:</p> <p>;;; Transparency (from http://www.emacswiki.org/emacs/TransparentEmacs). (set-frame-parameter (selected-frame) 'alpha '(95 70)) (add-to-list 'default-frame-alist '(alpha 95 70))</p> <p>--K</p> You do know that you can make Emacs transparent? Like so:

;;; Transparency (from http://www.emacswiki.org/emacs/TransparentEmacs). (set-frame-parameter (selected-frame) ‘alpha ‘(95 70)) (add-to-list ‘default-frame-alist ‘(alpha 95 70))

–K

]]> By: Anonymous http://snarfed.org/why_i_dont_run_shells_inside_emacs#comment-12396 Anonymous Fri, 20 Aug 2010 15:26:18 +0000 http://snarfed.org/wordpress/why_i_dont_run_shells_inside_emacs#comment-12396 <p>What drives me nuts is filename completion in and winxp cygwin xemacs subshell always adds "\" rather than "/" The documentation for comint-completion-addsuffix says it will add "/" but on my systems it always adds "\"</p> What drives me nuts is filename completion in and winxp cygwin xemacs subshell always adds “\” rather than “/” The documentation for comint-completion-addsuffix says it will add “/” but on my systems it always adds “\”

]]> By: Mehmet Karatay http://snarfed.org/why_i_dont_run_shells_inside_emacs#comment-11549 Mehmet Karatay Tue, 17 Aug 2010 10:36:53 +0000 http://snarfed.org/wordpress/why_i_dont_run_shells_inside_emacs#comment-11549 <p>It may not be exactly what you want, but have you heard of xclip? It enables you to pipe straight to the clipboard. http://sourceforge.net/projects/xclip/</p> It may not be exactly what you want, but have you heard of xclip? It enables you to pipe straight to the clipboard. http://sourceforge.net/projects/xclip/

]]> By: Guest http://snarfed.org/why_i_dont_run_shells_inside_emacs#comment-1145 Guest Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 http://snarfed.org/wordpress/why_i_dont_run_shells_inside_emacs#comment-1145 <p>Maybe TRAMP filename completion might be usable if you used the OpenSSH 4.0+ ControlMaster feature?</p> <p class="paragraph"/> <p><i class="italic">- <span class="nobr"><a href="http://marc.abramowitz.info" rel="nofollow">Marc</a></span></i></p> Maybe TRAMP filename completion might be usable if you used the OpenSSH 4.0+ ControlMaster feature?

- Marc

]]> By: ryan http://snarfed.org/why_i_dont_run_shells_inside_emacs#comment-1146 ryan Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 http://snarfed.org/wordpress/why_i_dont_run_shells_inside_emacs#comment-1146 <p>fascinating! i'd never heard of <span class="nobr"><a href="http://www.debian-administration.org/articles/290" rel="nofollow">ControlMaster</a></span> before.</p> <p class="paragraph"/> <p>sadly, the machines i work on regularly all have openssh 3.7.x, and some of them would be bears to upgrade. still, i'll keep it in mind. thanks!</p> fascinating! i’d never heard of ControlMaster before.

sadly, the machines i work on regularly all have openssh 3.7.x, and some of them would be bears to upgrade. still, i’ll keep it in mind. thanks!

]]> By: Guest http://snarfed.org/why_i_dont_run_shells_inside_emacs#comment-1147 Guest Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 http://snarfed.org/wordpress/why_i_dont_run_shells_inside_emacs#comment-1147 <p>If you're on Linux, you could try solving the secure access to remote filesystems problem on a different level that would take care of the filename completion: sshfs or shfs. I've only used the former; it worked perfectly with Emacs. <span class="nobr"><a href="http://fuse.sourceforge.net/sshfs.html" rel="nofollow">http://fuse.sourceforge.net/sshfs.html</a></span> <span class="nobr"><a href="http://shfs.sourceforge.net/faq.html" rel="nofollow">http://shfs.sourceforge.net/faq.html</a></span></p> <p class="paragraph"/> <p><i class="italic">- <span class="nobr"><a href="http://www.mememachinego.com/" rel="nofollow">Zed</a></span></i></p> If you’re on Linux, you could try solving the secure access to remote filesystems problem on a different level that would take care of the filename completion: sshfs or shfs. I’ve only used the former; it worked perfectly with Emacs. http://fuse.sourceforge.net/sshfs.html http://shfs.sourceforge.net/faq.html

- Zed

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