Thank you all for the feedback, both good and bad. I knew Iβd hear some pushback that this should be opt in instead of opt out, and I obviously did. Iβve also had some useful conversations and ideas on how to bridge (ahem π) that gap and make opt in more realistically usable, along with a few interesting compromise points between opt in and opt out. Iβm grateful to everyone today who engaged and talked constructively and offered those new techniques. It’s very possible that this will land somewhere along that spectrum other than fully opt out.
I had plenty of work to do already before launch, and now I have a number of other important ideas to explore too. Thatβs great! I really do appreciate it. I’ll definitely check back in well before this launches.
@snarfed.org Hope you keep up the good work
https://fed.brid.gy/r/https://snarfed.org/ Hope you keep up the good work
@Carlos gerade hier gelesen, jetzt per OptIn
Hier noch der original post
@oliver@die-partei.social @homegrown@social.growyourown.services @mastodonmigration@mastodon.online
RE: https://fed.brid.gy/r/https://ryandc36.wpcomstaging.com/2024-02-12_52106
@snarfed.org interesting compromise points between opt in and opt out
interesting compromise points between being pregnant and not being pregnant
@agrinova@social.cologne
Na ja, er spricht von einem Kompromiss zwischen Opt-in und Opt-out. Das erscheint mir ziemlich unrealistisch… Ist das dann SchrΓΆdingers Opt-out?
@agrinova @mastodonmigration @snarfed.org @snarfed Well not really?
@snarfed.org itβs simply that you picked the wrong default. The fact that you did so says multitudes about your trustworthiness.
Do you think that people criticizing this do not already have access to Bluesky? You are serving the back end robber barons, not the users.
@agrinova @mastodonmigration @snarfed.org @snarfed
Can you translate that for me? that made no sense, it says nothing doesn’t it?
@snarfed.org The GDPR applies to US-based companies that offer services to people in EU Member States. It applies to not-for-profit organisations. It will apply to you. Figure this out before launch.
Besides, consent matters even if you don’t get fined for ignoring it.
@snarfed.org Hi, from my perspective as an admin for some time now, my constructive feedback is stop this project.
You obviously have no idea what it is that you are doing beside the technical part.
There are hundreds of fediverse project that could use your skills to improve or fix something that exists, is used and is usefull.
I’m just tired of having to block people’s pet project mate, I really am. Just don’t.
And if you really really want to do that, just talk to a lawyer that is fluent in european (and UK) data protection laws and listen to what they are telling you.
@snarfed.org Opt in is the only approach where you get consent from people. Please get our consent. Be the good guy.
@snarfed.org
Not seeing a note in this about how youβre switching it from opt out to opt in. Where can I find that statement, please?
@snarfed.org So you knew you’d hear pushback about opt out vs opt in and went ahead anyway? Do you not care about the consent of the people who’s data you are planning to harvest and put on a completely different service?
@snarfed.org Fuck you for treating the health and safety of other people as a “debate point” and “feedback”.
There is no middle ground when it comes to protecting people.
@snarfed.org
If you knew that you would be asked to make it opt-in instead of opt-out, why exactly didn’t you make it opt-in instead of opt-out ?
If you have a valid reason to do so, I didn’t find it on your blog post, while it certainly should be a very important point to treat accurately.
@snarfed.org after all that push back you’re still considering it? Yuck, stop working in development, go get a fast food job already
@snarfed.org opt-out is very backwards. It feels a little predatory to make everyone turn it off rather than on. It’s normal behavior from companies like Facebook and Twitter to get as many unsuspecting users as possible. If someone wants to opt-in, then they can. But don’t force anything on anyone. I chose to be on mastodon for very specific reasons, this feels extremely intrusive.
@agrinova
Γh – was soll denn ein “nicht reines Opt-Out” sein?
Da geht doch nur entweder-oder …
@michaela
@agrinova @mastodonmigration @snarfed.org @snarfed All I see at this link is mention of a supposed middle ground between opt-out and opt-in, but no description or explanation of what that is.
(My favourite comment there compared his middle ground to a middle ground between βpregnantβ and βnot pregnantβ.)
@snarfed.org frankly you should keep it opt-out. Otherwise, only the people who know about bridgyfed would opt in.
@snarfed.org Something that might solve a lot of the opt-in concern is if the bridge were e.g. a proxy in front of the ActivityPub server the admin can install rather than a centralized bridge between two or more decentralized APIs. Some server application specific plugins would be nice for better user control, but that generally follows the pattern I’ve seen with bridges being installed by channel/server admins rather than being bridged whether you know it or not by a third party.
@snarfed.org bit of a silly default to pick given the politics of this place, but interesting idea and tech. Don’t approve of a lot of the language being used in the replies, hope you can find a middle ground that minimizes the discontent. I await developments!